Aired 05/12/09 DAVID KORTEN author, AGENDA FOR A NEW ECONOMY: From Phantom Wealth to Real Wealth DAVID KORTEN is the author of WHEN CORPORATIONS RULE THE WORLD and THE GREAT TURNING: From Empire to Earth Community. He is co-founder and board chair of YES! Magazine, and a board member of the Business Alliance for Local Living Economies (BALLE) http://www.yesmagazine.org http://www.livingeconomies.org RANDY HAYES has been highly successful waging corporate accountability campaigns with Rainforest Action Network and International Forum on Globalization. He's working to launch a media campaign to "Ecologize the Economy." http://www.worldfuturecouncil.org http://ran.org KORTEN's got some big ideas, HAYES does too -- and a knack for activism. I'll talk with both about taking advantage of the current crises to transform our economy and, in turn, our future reality.